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Spinning Articles Policy

Effective today , we are implementing a "no spinning" policy. We are seeing a lot of signs that some of the most recent members are using spinning programs. Most of the content is suggested to be plagiarized, but we cannot prove such a thing since the article has been spinned. However, it is pretty clear and obvious to me what articles have actually had this process done to the article.

When spinning articles, your content also then becomes "incoherent English." The sentences either become incomplete or just make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Since we do not allow incoherent English articles, these type of posts WILL be deleted, if it is continuously done, your account will be deleted.

As of today, if you have decided to spin any of your articles, please go back and edit them or delete them. Any article remaining with possible spinning will be deleted, and your account will be deleted as well. Search engines and Advertisers WILL refuse us if we are caught keeping any such content on our page. If you want to re-do an article, do it by hand, by your own mind.


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Comments

paigea wrote on July 17, 2014, 2:23 PM

This is a very fair warning to anyone who is doing that.

Kementari wrote on July 17, 2014, 2:24 PM

It's really sad to see people spinning articles and not actually taking the time to write genuine and interesting content. Goes to show that people are pretty lazy and aren't always all about the connecting, and sharing of original ideas/posts. I think that this is a very fair warning to all who are participating in this type of behavior as it's just wrong to do it.

momathome wrote on July 17, 2014, 2:27 PM

This may sound stupid but I'm not really sure what you mean by "spinning". Are you talking about rewriting articles?

AliCanary wrote on July 17, 2014, 2:33 PM

Thank you! Spun articles are really difficult to read, and the obvious roots in plagiarism are just plain bad. I'm so glad you are being proactive about this.

AliCanary wrote on July 17, 2014, 2:39 PM

Spinning is done by a software that, among other things, is programmed to replace words with other words of a similar meaning, so as to make copy-paste plagiarism undetectable. However, some words have multiple meanings (did you lead your horse to water, and was the bucket made of lead? Did your heart swell when you decide your boyfriend was swell?), and the software can't make any reasonable determination which to use. The result is usually weird-sounding at best, and often just ends up as word soup.

momathome wrote on July 17, 2014, 2:42 PM

AliCanary Okay, then I'm safe. I don't use any software programs to write my posts (except possibly prewriting in evernote once in a blue moon). And it all comes directly out of my head so it might be jumbled but its just because my mind is! lol.

KimRemesch wrote on July 17, 2014, 2:54 PM

I wish you had a LOVE button in this case. How hard is it to follow the rules in this case. It makes me nuts.

LoudMan wrote on July 17, 2014, 2:56 PM

Why can't I like this 100,000 times? Spinners are a big part of why we can't have nice things. They "think" they're so smart. Ha-duurrr. LOL

inertia4 wrote on July 17, 2014, 3:15 PM

MaeLou Well, I guess I'm safe. I write my posts on my Mac. Then I put them into my Google Drive as a document. Then I post them here. Between my nots app on my Mac and Google Docs, I can correct my spelling before they are posted here. I am assuming I am okay by doing this. If not let me know.

SLGarcia wrote on July 17, 2014, 3:58 PM

I had never heard of spinning, but that certainly makes sense to me regarding a lot of articles I have read on Bubblews. One of the many aspects I love about this site is the intolerance for such things. Thank you!

Ellis wrote on July 17, 2014, 4:03 PM

Phew! I thought for a minute there I was going to have to stop using my charkha...

MaeLou wrote on July 17, 2014, 4:06 PM

This is your own writing though, we are seeing what appears to be plagiarized content being spinned by a program. Two completely different things :)

poddys wrote on July 17, 2014, 4:21 PM

Sounds good to me. For those who don't know what spinning is, have you ever had any spam emails or comments that seem to be a load of gibberish full of seemingly random words and phrases? Those are spun content. There is software that can scrape content off other web sites and post it as new articles on other sites, often spun to the content doesn't make sense at all. Blocking that here? 150% heck yeah!

Bensen32 wrote on July 17, 2014, 4:48 PM

LOL, I never heard of this. but it does explain a lot of articles I have read, umm tried to read. Hell, I'm spun enough in my thoughts I don't need software to do that for me.

SandraLynn wrote on July 17, 2014, 4:55 PM

I don't think I've read any spins here. I think I'm sticking to the good people, lol :) And I haven't gotten to everyone yet, but I'm getting there :)

gidget wrote on July 17, 2014, 5:20 PM

What is 'spinning' an article? Is it like using an online translator?
I saw a long post today that was incoherent, the first I have seen since being here

AliCanary wrote on July 17, 2014, 6:51 PM

I found one, and I POUNCED!! As Heather can attest. I really don't like plagiarists >:(

SandraLynn wrote on July 17, 2014, 7:55 PM

Good for you :) I've written two posts about those jerks AND she knows my feelings quite LOUDLY, too ;) But actual spins - the software ones, I don't think I've seen those yet. Maybe...

AbbyBiha wrote on July 17, 2014, 8:33 PM

This is very sad but it is only fair that they are warned. Repeated offenders will be deleted.

bestwriter wrote on July 17, 2014, 9:07 PM

There is no stopping what devious methods some use. Here is an opportunity for many to practice writing good English but...........:(

MaeLou wrote on July 17, 2014, 9:49 PM

There's at least 1 more out there that I know of.. the one you flagged is gone I believe.

MaeLou wrote on July 17, 2014, 9:50 PM

Different than an online translator. People are taking articles (so plagiarizing) and then using a software to switch it up a bit and use synonyms for the words. It turns into a bit sloppy mess.

Anja wrote on July 17, 2014, 10:45 PM

I am very practiced at un-spinning the article and finding the source material. I have done this a few times over at the other site and reported the spinner with the URL of the plagiarized and then spun article.

AliCanary wrote on July 18, 2014, 7:45 AM

YAY! :D

AliCanary wrote on July 18, 2014, 7:54 AM

Oh, wow! That is really badass. I like it a lot!

gulp_burp wrote on July 18, 2014, 8:08 AM

I had no idea what "spinning an article" meant until I searched for its meaning. Well that explains incoherent and jumbled English. But I don't think I've seen any from here yet.

NickRThomas wrote on July 18, 2014, 8:40 AM

I have just read a spectacularly spun post on another site. Absolute gibberish which, appallingly, may well stay on there.

tinamarie wrote on July 18, 2014, 9:17 AM

Thanks for explaining that AliCanary - I was a little confused myself on what spinning meant.

MaeLou wrote on July 18, 2014, 9:26 AM

Well, if you come across something that looks spinned and can prove they plagiarized, it's even bigger grounds for banning. As of right now, we've just basically been deleting the profiles for simply being incoherent English because I can't figure out how to tell where the original came from.

MaeLou wrote on July 18, 2014, 9:27 AM

I try to get to all posts as soon as I have the time, and when I find something, I try to get rid of it as soon as possible, so it is entirely possible, they are removed before too many people see them.

LisaSteinmetz wrote on July 18, 2014, 7:50 PM

I have absolutely no clue as to how spinning an article is done and nor do I have the desire to learn about it or even try it, so I guess I'm safe with that one. :)

acelawrites wrote on July 19, 2014, 7:19 AM

I don't now how they could submit spun articles, instead of creating genuine posts. It is so sad that some people just wanted to be called "writers" by resorting to those unethical acts.

WordChazer wrote on July 19, 2014, 10:57 AM

Good call. Spinners deserve a horrible fate. In academia it's called plagiarism. That can lead to redaction of your degree in Germany and a criminal record in other places. It's theft, plain and simple. If you didn't write it, don't pretend that you did. Grow a pair, acknowledge the input of the original article and stir those braincells into writing something unique. Try crafting a response to the original article, or a development of one of the ideas within it.

MsTina wrote on July 19, 2014, 5:02 PM

Thank you! I just found this site today after getting frustrated on that other site with what is obviously terrible article spinning.

CoralLevang wrote on July 20, 2014, 10:16 PM

Hell, I don't even know what that means..."spinning articles." *laughs*

CoralLevang wrote on July 20, 2014, 10:19 PM

I do, however, spin words. emoticon :winking: It's all about persuasion. :P

inertia4 wrote on July 21, 2014, 9:59 PM

MaeLou Nice!!! I hate scammers, I really do. I feel that if you cannot write then you shouldn't be part of a site like this. Or better yet, if you have nothing to say.

PammyG wrote on July 23, 2014, 2:04 AM

Write-arounds or spinning is still fraud in my opinion. The content is not your own ideas or presented in a way that reflects a new idea. The words may not be exactly the same on both articles, but the content has been stolen. I'm glad that this type of article has been banned here!

chatombreux wrote on July 30, 2014, 12:26 AM

I've never heard it called that. I do know that some at another site will use translators to translate an article of their own language into English which is often a literal translation meaning it is awkward reading. They are plagiarizing, but they think it can't be determined.

Ruby3881 wrote on July 30, 2014, 6:00 AM

Um, I think I need to clarify the concern with spinning based on that last comment about telling people to "re-do an article, do it by hand, by your own mind." Spinning not only results in stilted language or incomprehensible texts, it's a copyright infringement. And if search engines are sophisticated enough to pick it out, it will get a site flagged for duplicate content.

But "rewriting" and "summarizing" are both forms of copyright infringement (and plagiarism, if the source isn't credited.) And if a site is just a collection of rewritten content from other published sources, it's just as likely to be penalized by advertisers and search engines. I'm hoping that these techniques will also be against the rules here at Persona Paper. Because if someone else already wrote exactly what a user here is saying, but in different words, I'd rather read that other writer's original thoughts than a mindless parroting whose only purpose is to earn a few coins for the user.

Ruby3881 wrote on July 30, 2014, 6:07 AM

Although spinning is different than using a translator, it essentially creates the same result. Depending on the text and the software used, spun content can be just stilted or completely incomprehensible. Similarly, depending on the text and what language it was written in, machine translations can be fairly close to a human translation or a complete mess.

A lot of the garbage posts on Bubblews right now are plagiarized from foreign-language web sites and passed through a translator app. It's tough to prove they were translated rather than spun, but in most cases it's plagiarized content either way.

Ruby3881 wrote on July 30, 2014, 6:10 AM

Do you have any specific tricks you can share, Anja? I've been able to detect spun and translated content reliably, but am often stumped when it comes to finding the source. I know the usual tricks like searching the exact title, searching for key phrases used in list posts, etc. But often it just doesn't unravel the spinning....