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The made up "War on Christmas" has started. Again.

Previously it was some fundies and conservatives foaming at the mouth over people saying "Happy Holidays*" instead of Merry during the holiday season. These folk need to get a life that involves living with their fellow human beings instead of demanding everyone else follow their narrow and preferable version of theocracy view of the world.

Now it is over the fact that ' holiday cups this year are simply red and green. OMGHERD!!!!!!! PLAIN CUPS IN TRADITIONAL CHRISTMAS COLORS!!!!!!! NO MENTION OF JESUS AND SUCH!!!! WAR ON CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOMEONE SEND A WHAMBULANCE!!!!!!

Um, dudes, Starbucks has always had secular cups. Previous years have had the cups featuring snowflakes, reindeer and other non-religious holiday symbols. Never once have they featured Christian holiday symbols.

Considering that for the most part, Christmas as a big holiday in the western world is pretty new. In fact it was more or less illegal in the early American colonies and the Roman Catholic Church celebrated it with a mass with no extra trimmings for most of it's history. It really wasn't until the Victorians adopted it for family celebrations that it became a big thing.

Heck, the vast majority of the traditions were stolen from pagans, including Dec 25th since the Church wanted to stamp out all other religions and stole pagan holidays and overlaid ones that they made up, like Jesus being born in the winter, when he was clearly born in the spring. So, if they wanted to celebrate His birthday correctly, they can bloody well figure it when it was (I think some scholars pinpointed it to sometime in April) and move their big birthday celebration to then and let everyone else celebrate the winter holidays however they want in peace.

Wishing folk a Happy Holiday during this time of year covers BOTH religious (Christmas, Hanukkah, Solstice/Yule, Kwanzaa and whatever religious celebration happens around this time) AND the nice secular let's all go out eat, drink and be merry enjoying and surviving the winter holidays. With the caffeinated beverage (or not) of your choice in cups that come in festive colors.

And those screaming the loudest. Why don't you stop screaming and do what Jesus would probably do during this season. Make sure the poor and needy have the basics for survival, maybe some extras to make the holidays happier. Feed the poor, comfort the sick, be kind to everyone, whoever they are. I extremely doubt that Jesus gives a crap about about how his birthday is celebrated. Unless it is quietly by doing good works and stop shouting about it at the top of your lungs. That would make Him very happy.

*Holiday, as in: (from “holy day”), originally, a day of dedication to religious observance; in modern times, a day of either religious or secular commemoration.

Image Credit » Jean Crawford Evans 2015

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FourWalls wrote on November 9, 2015, 3:42 PM

Here's the thing I find funny about all of this: in 2013 these same loudmouth so-called "Christian leaders" called for a boycott OF STARBUCKS because the company was in favor of same-sex marriage (which, at that time, had not been ruled upon by the Supreme Court). Why should these people be worried about the design of a cup at a place they are boycotting to begin with? Y'know, if these people spent half the time they spend concocting these nonexistent issues on things like, oh, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, sheltering the homeless (all those things Jesus commanded in lieu of "protest against a Starbucks coffee cup") this world would be in much, much better shape.

MegL wrote on November 9, 2015, 3:58 PM

I think Christmas should be banned! Actually, no I probably don't but it is very much a children's feast of greed and gimme and I want and an adult's feast of too much booze and rich food. It is very commercial these days. I like a holiday as much as anyone but I am getting more and more to the point of let's just HAVE a quiet holiday at home, without all the fuss. Eat the usual food and forget the trimmings. Scroogess!

CoralLevang wrote on November 9, 2015, 4:00 PM

It really follows suit to what most people seem to do when they disagree. They scream the loudest, but do nothing to do good for others. We see it at Starbucks, in family or friend situations, and even at writing sites.

I liked this article... a lot.

JohnRoberts wrote on November 9, 2015, 4:11 PM

How about narrow minded liberal witch hunters beating the bushes looking for religious things to protest their offense over. It works both ways. Liberals love to call Christians fanatics when they get upset over Starbucks cups but liberals get just as fanatical when screaming over Starbucks cups that say Merry Christmas. Liberals bitch and moan far more than Christians and conservatives and have the nerve to tell Christians to get over it concerning Starbucks cup? Why don't liberals get over it when confronted with a Merry Christmas than a Happy Holidays? Oh that's right, Christians and conservatives are evil while only liberals stand among the righteous by God (pun intended) and you had better get lock step in liberal way of thinking.

JohnRoberts wrote on November 9, 2015, 4:14 PM

Have you ever written against "politically correct" liberals screaming their protests or do you support a world in we must all be lock step in liberal beliefs and never dare utter the words Merry Christmas? Why don't Christians have the right to moan and groan and bash like liberals?

morilla wrote on November 9, 2015, 4:36 PM

You do understand that it's not so much about whether "Merry Christmas" is said - right? It's about what is perceived as an abandonment of traditional beliefs and core principles in favor of a 'politically correct' society where there is less actual 'freedom and liberty' than is found in the more traditional, dare I say, truly 'liberal' (in the old sense of the term) society we used to have . In other words, it's not about Santa Claus, a Nativity Scene, or supposed "nonexistent issues." It's about a perception of a changing country, impingement (real and perceived) on freedoms, etc. (If gun control proponents are deified for screaming that the Supreme Court got it 'wrong' in Heller [they kinda did due to the 'compromise' which was worked out, but not about it being an individual right], then people are allowed to be against gay marriage just as much as proponents are allowed to be for it, even with the Supreme Court's current ruling.)

I agree that boycotting Starbucks is kinda pointless. However, the idea that those who are 'upset' don't have a point is simply an attempt to deflect the issue and demean those who are 'upset.' If you're in favor of gay marriage, that's your choice. If you are in favor of not saying "Merry Christmas," that's your choice. However, that doesn't mean those NOT supportive of gay marriage or in favor of "Christmas" as opposed to just another "Holiday" are 'destroying' the World. Just as their 'screaming the loudest' doesn't necessarily make them 'correct,' you screaming louder back at them doesn't make you 'right.'

FourWalls wrote on November 9, 2015, 6:17 PM

I know that the street runs both ways, which is why I singled out a few self-serving more than God-serving "leaders" who start all of this stuff. Most Christians don't act this way. I don't celebrate Christmas because I know Jesus wasn't born that day, but I'm not the least bit offended if someone says "Merry Christmas."

I think that anyone who is offended by Christmas (a) needs to work on Christmas without holiday pay or overtime, because by taking the day off they're acknowledging it ; and (b) needs to start protesting the other Christian with a federal holiday: Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. (And no, I won't be holding my breath for either to happen.)

FourWalls wrote on November 9, 2015, 6:35 PM

Let me add something about my previous comment and reply, John: having a figurative cow over something like this (given, as I said, Christians were called to boycott Starbucks two years ago) is the religious equivalent of "the boy who cried wolf." We see it all the time with "racism," and in fact, I just read an article about how people are "outraged" over Jason Aldean wearing blackface on Halloween. Now, I know that is contrived because 99.999% of blacks don't listen to country music, but it's out there in the news. That's not racism. RACISM is being refused service for your skin color. RACISM is being hit with water cannons for walking on the same sidewalk as someone of another race. Dressing up, no matter how "inappropriately," isn't racism (an analogy: would it be "sexism" if he dressed up like a woman?).

By the same token, this isn't "religious persecution." "Religious persecution" would be Linda Ronstadt's comment that she didn't want fundamentalist Christians at her shows (well, she doesn't have to worry about that anymore, does she, given that she has Parkinson's disease and can't sing anymore [insert payback/karma comment of your choice here]). "Religious persecution" is the government forcing Chick Fil-A or Hobby Lobby to open on Sunday. "Religious persecution" is someone being FIRED for wearing a cross around their neck. "Religious persecution" is having your head chopped off the way ISIS does in Libya. "Religious persecution" is the Holocaust. People need to pick their fights properly, or when the real thing happens no one is going to listen because they're going to think, "Oh, these are the same people who think not having 'John 3:16' on their Starbucks cup is persecution."

FourWalls wrote on November 9, 2015, 6:45 PM

Your comments are always thoughtful and well-written, yet you may have topped yourself here. You articulate what John's and others' complaints are: this is still a free country, and people have the right to say they don't like something. My objection to this entire thing is that these same "Christian leaders" called for a boycott of Starbucks two years ago, so what are they doing back there now, looking at the cups of a place they said "don't go to" two years ago?! Yet, they are protected under the First Amendment's religious and speech clauses to say it. If they don't want to go to Starbucks it is their prerogative, just as it was the prerogative of the gay community to boycott Florida oranges in the 1970's until they dropped Anita Bryant as their spokesperson.

Feisty56 wrote on November 9, 2015, 7:01 PM

I just recently read an article that stated that children who are religious are less tolerant than their secular peers. That must come from the homes of those who sit in judgment of everyone else (despite Jesus, the Christ, admonishing everyone to "judge not lest ye be judged.")

DWDavisRSL wrote on November 9, 2015, 8:12 PM

I understand you were trying to keep the history lesson brief but there is so much more that could be added about how Christianity's major holidays, and Judaism's before that were overlayed onto pagan or polytheistic holidays already being celebrated. I try not to pay too much attention to these foolish "controversial" happenings. So Starbucks is leaving the snowflakes off its cups this year. Chances are, Jesus, living where he did, never saw snow unless it from a distance when he looked toward the Golan Heights.

wolfgirl569 wrote on November 9, 2015, 9:23 PM

I get tired of hearing the whole us christians are being persecuted theory for anything that happens not in line with how they want things. I thought the cups looked like red solo cups myself. You are never going to please everyone. I say merry Christmas as that is what I grew up with, but have also responded to happy hanakuh {spelling sorry} happy yule or just plain old good day. To me happy holidays is an all encompassing for the winter season from Thanksgiving to New Years

Rufuszen wrote on November 10, 2015, 7:21 AM

There seem to be a lot of made up 'wars' out there, mostly designed to stir up resentment

JeanC wrote on November 10, 2015, 6:00 PM

That there is.

JeanC wrote on November 10, 2015, 6:02 PM

Yup, I grew up with Happy Holidays and you just have to watch old movies to see it was a perfectly good term for the season. Holidays are wonderful bright spots when the weather is dark and dreary emoticon :smile:

JeanC wrote on November 10, 2015, 6:04 PM

Yeah, could probably write a 26 volume opus on the first 1000 years alone emoticon :grin:

JeanC wrote on November 10, 2015, 6:05 PM

Thank you.

bethieannie wrote on November 11, 2015, 5:46 AM

Yeah, see, I don't get why people are freaking out over a red cup, I mean if its that big of a deal then the red solo cup must be an abomination, too.

CalmGemini wrote on November 11, 2015, 7:54 AM

I read about the'' war on Christmas.'' In my country,majority are not Christians.But we all celebrate Christmas in our own different ways.All celebrations have been commercialized of course. But It is a time for spending with one's family and close friends .Many of us exchange greetings like,''Merry Christmas'',''Season's Greetings'',''Happy Holidays''and ''Happy New Year''. Nice photo JeanC

grandma20121 wrote on November 20, 2015, 3:25 PM

i see nothing wrong with Happy Holidays , and cups are cups people need to just get over , everyone has different ways of doing certain things, to each his own