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Should Our Children be Vaccinated for HPV viruses?

Last week my grandson came home and said everyone was getting the HPV vaccine. I think in some schools it is already mandatory. HPV stands for "Human Papillomavirus". The virus can cause cervical cancer in women, and is also linked to genital warts. There are approximately 150 types of HPV. The disease is usually transmitted through the oral, anal and genital regions when sexually active. The vaccine is still fairly new and long term effects are still unknown. Yes, it may prevent cervical cancer and other sexually transmitted diseases. However, should we give it to our children? There have already been devastating side effects to this drug such as seizures, paralyses, and even death. I know there are risks taking any medication, but do we really want to subject our child to a new drug that is potentially a health risk? They are vaccinating children as young a nine years old. The pharmaceutical companies make billions each year on new drugs. Something to think about.

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Kasman wrote on September 6, 2015, 12:56 PM

As I understand it the side effects of the HPV inoculation has affected only small numbers and whilst any side effect is to be deplored there is, as you say, a risk in every inoculation but the risk of deleterious side effects from this inoculation surely outways the risk of contracting a cancer by those who are not inoculated. Statistically speaking I think the risk is very acceptable but, obviously, if your child is one of the unlucky ones that is no consolation. In the UK the HPV inoculation is given only to girls although extending it to boys is being considered. This new drug has, of course, been through all the regulatory testing required before being released for use and the CDC have this to say about it: Of course none of this means that the drug is 100% safe (no drug is) and monitoring of its use will continue.

Petra wrote on September 6, 2015, 1:34 PM

I agree that it's not 100% safe, and there are those who benefitted from this drug, however because there are still conflicting opinions, even among doctors, about the HPV vaccinations, it makes me nervous when they want to immunize children with this drug. I have three grandchildren that have been vaccinated with this drug and I pray they won't find something down the road and say "sorry we made a mistake." I understand about the prevention of cervical cancer; I had two sister-in-laws that died of this, however they were in their late 60's. I just think immunizing children as young as 9 years old for sexually transmitted diseases, is a little too young.
Thank you for your comment Kasman, I'm afraid the controversy over this drug isn't over.

Kasman wrote on September 6, 2015, 1:57 PM

Drugs, especially new drugs will always be the subject of controversy.

Just a heads up about something in the rules of Persona Paper. All images must be provided with a link back to the source (it's in the FAQs) and must be available to use either by being subject to a relevant licence or by permission of the copyright holder. If you have purchased the rights to an image this should really by stated in the post (and keep the relevant emails in case admin ask to see them). This post by MaeLou :

and this one by myself

should help you understand what Persona Paper requires of image attribution. Failure to properly credit images or using images you have no right to use could result in a delay in you being paid for your work or possibly not being paid at all! Wouldn't want you to fall foul of a rule you didn't know about.

CoralLevang wrote on September 6, 2015, 2:04 PM

I think it is a sad state of affairs when we live in a world that is requiring us (legally or morally) to inoculate our children for sexually transmitted diseases.
When did "protect your children" become so convoluted?

seren3 wrote on September 6, 2015, 2:21 PM

Petra I personally would go with Dr. Mercola before I would go with the CDC. He only peddles vitamins.

Petra wrote on September 6, 2015, 3:22 PM

Dear Kasman; I have never had trouble entering an image before ( my blog, wikinut, helium for 8 years and wordpress, weekly) I have accounts in istock, big stock, morgue file, and Dreamtime. I always make sure I have the right to use them. I pay for all my images because I know how important it is to add an image for the enhancement of the article I'm posting. I'm not familiar with pixaby but will give its try. I edited my image and placed the URL where it is from big stock. Thanks for the heads up on this.

chrisandmark wrote on September 6, 2015, 3:28 PM

My two teens have been vaccinated but I didn't know boys needed it done at all (they're girls)

Petra wrote on September 6, 2015, 3:31 PM

I agree Coral. I was just thinking; When I was young in the fifties, there was only one drug store in our town (pop.75 thousand) now we have a drugstore on almost every corner and people are getting sicker. Pharmaceutical companies are getting richer and I'm wondering are they tapping into the future generation as a commodity, keeping the money flowing.

DWDavisRSL wrote on September 6, 2015, 3:32 PM

Sadly, as ridiculous as it may seem to vaccinate children that age against a sexually transmitted disease, we've had cases in our school system of ten year old girls being pregnant with mom's latest boyfriend's child, and genital warts being spread in the fifth grade because of games boys were playing with each other in the bathrooms. In almost every case, the children involved were the progeny of single mothers living in poverty who'd started having children before they themselves were out of high school. And race plays no real factor. Economic status seems to be the primary indicator.

Kasman wrote on September 6, 2015, 3:34 PM

Petra - It's good to find someone who knows what they are doing regarding image use! Glad to see you have included a link back to the source - that is very important on this site.

CoralLevang wrote on September 6, 2015, 3:36 PM

Petra I am not only looking at this from a drug perspective, but from what we teach our children is the behavior that they need to worry about, either their own or by others. *sigh*

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Petra wrote on September 6, 2015, 3:37 PM

Hi Chrisandmark; Yes boys are also getting vaccinated with this drug. My grandson came home last week saying he was getting vaccinated to prevent genital warts. I thought, "are you kidding me?" He's just a kid.
Thanks for your comment.

DWDavisRSL wrote on September 6, 2015, 3:38 PM

If you could hear some of the stories I've heard and those I have first hand knowledge of you would be sickened and dismayed at the state of morality in the lowest economic stata in this country. Mothers telling their boyfriends to use their teen and pre-teen daughters when they don't feel like sex, sending girls as young as 11 and 12 out to turn tricks because if they want to eat they better bring in some money.

I wish I could say I as making this stuff up.

Petra wrote on September 6, 2015, 3:42 PM

Dear Kasman; I'm glad I finally got it right. I always have to learn the hard way. Now I'm thinking maybe I haven't entered the hundred images in the past correctly. No one has mentioned it to me before, I didn't normally put the URL of my image in the article, however I always scourced my images giving credit where it was due. Thanks again for bringing it to my attention.

Petra wrote on September 6, 2015, 3:52 PM

Oh my god; I can't believe this. I live in a rural area and I have never heard of this. I guess I've lived a sheltered life. This is a crazy world and if this is true, I guess there is a need for some children to receive the vaccination. I think social services should look into these families. What happened to the family structure in America? It sure is a sad world when a child isn't safe at home. Where the HPV vaccination is concerned, think it is an individual decision and parents have to way the pros and cons carefully before subjecting their child to it.
I thank you very much for your comment. I hand idea.

CoralLevang wrote on September 6, 2015, 3:58 PM

DWDavisRSL I was on a playground with my nephew several years ago. There were some older kids...older, meaning about 8 or 9, talking about (I will translate their graphic language into following) giving and receiving BJs. I was dumbfounded. I did not know what that meant until I was 19, and in the USAF

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Petra wrote on September 6, 2015, 3:59 PM

It seems the family structure has fallen apart, it's a new world here now. I'm so angry that our MP in Ontario wants to include sex education to kindergarten children (4-5 yr.old). If they did this years ago when my children were small, I would have pulled them from school and taught them at home. Thank you so much for your comments Coral.

CoralLevang wrote on September 6, 2015, 4:03 PM

Petra It certainly is different than back in the 1960s when I lived the majority of my childhood years.
To think that at 4-5 in my day, sex education was non-existence. Watching Lucy and Ricky kiss was the most I got.

Petra wrote on September 6, 2015, 4:10 PM

Coral, I had to think for a moment what a BJ was. I think there're a lot of things that contribute to the morality of our children today. TV and video games I think are a big factor. There is nothing they don't show or say on TV today. I remember years ago the movie (early 60's) 'Splendour in the Grass' It was a beautiful, coming of age love story. There was no nudity, sex or foul language, yet it was restricted for those younger than 18 yrs. old. What a difference half a century makes.

Dawnwriter wrote on September 6, 2015, 4:15 PM

The discussion here made my hair stand on end. Children nowadays are so vulnerable especially in broken homes. ( Petra if you use this sign & before names, the person will be tagged and know that you have responded to them in the discussion. Welcome. It is so nice to see you here)

Petra wrote on September 6, 2015, 4:15 PM

Ha, ha.. Your right and they slept in twin beds. It was a no, no to show them together in a double bed. I remember back then there was a saying. " Good girls go out on a date, go home then go to bed; Bad girls go on a date, go to bed then go home."

Petra wrote on September 6, 2015, 4:31 PM

Thank you so much Dawnwriter for the reminder. I just tagged you. You know, I have never tagged anyone before. This is all new to me. I always hear about 'hash tag' Whatever that means. It is great to see you here also, xx

Dawnwriter wrote on September 6, 2015, 4:36 PM

Yep, I got tagged emoticon :grin: If you wish to use hashtag, use this sign # for important keywords in your post like vaccine cancer diseases side-effects . You can use them within post or at the end. (You can also edit posts if you wish)

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Petra wrote on September 6, 2015, 4:47 PM

Thanks again Dawnwriter for the info. I'm learning a lot today:) by the way where did you get the smiley face and do I have to tag the person I write to every time?

Dawnwriter wrote on September 6, 2015, 4:53 PM

You can tag if you are addressing a person specifically in post. In comments forum, if you hit Reply button then I am automatically informed in my activity page. (Don't stress about it. It all becomes easy as you go along)

There's a great post about emoticons somewhere and I will try to find the link. A few I know by heart. For emoticons like smile, angry, grin, use : before and after the word without space. (I am adding space to give you some idea :smile : without space it becomes emoticon :smile: :angry : will become emoticon :angry: without space. I hope I am making sense. emoticon :grin:

Petra wrote on September 6, 2015, 4:58 PM

Hmmm,sounds a bit complicated, but I'll try. :smile:
Okay I think I just put in a smiley face. Hope it works. Thanks again for your adviceDawnwriter;0

DWDavisRSL wrote on September 6, 2015, 5:03 PM

Lyndon Johnson's Great Society destroyed the family unit in the US, especially among minorities and the low income demographic. It gave the government a paternal role it should never have assumed and has led to generation after generation of ever more severally dysfunctional children.

Petra wrote on September 6, 2015, 6:32 PM

What a sad, sad situation. It almost seems hopeless for future generations. It's hard to believe this country is where people come to live the American dream. After all, isn't America the land of opportunities, apple pie and all that? What a disillusion society. Perhaps if we all pull together, we might be able to make a difference. Thank you so much for bringing this sad reality forward.

Feisty56 wrote on September 6, 2015, 8:11 PM

This is a topic I haven't followed closely enough to have a factual basis for my opinion on the HPV vaccine. I understand that it's important the vaccine be received before a child becomes sexually active. Unfortunately, that is at younger and younger ages all the time. Some girls begin menstruation at age 9 --many years before girls in my generation did. I think this places them at greater risk to be seen as a sexual object -- and at an age where the girls are far too young to understand the ramifications of such activity.

I can't say I fully agree with a mandate to vaccinate all children, but on the other hand, the kids who may be most susceptible -- those in the lower income brackets -- may be the ones least likely to be immunized if the system is merely voluntary.

MegL wrote on September 7, 2015, 6:58 AM

Vaccination for any disease can be a contentious issue, with some contending that it is a cause of illness. It can be hard to know when all the information on line comes from people who are for or against and you may not always know if they have included ONLY that information that builds their case. No one seems to be a dispassionate and unbiased observer.

Petra wrote on September 8, 2015, 6:09 PM

Hi Fiesty56; It's hard to believe a child of 9 would become sexually active. Also I'm afraid that this vaccine will give the wrong message, saying it's alright to be sexually active; because the vaccine will prevent certain sexually transmitted diseases. I think that they should push the age up a bit to maybe 15-16yrs., and even that seems too young, but I know there are a lot of teen pregnancies. But anything before that age seems just wrong to me. Their bodies are still developing and we don't know how it will effect their bodies down the road. Thank your your comment. I know this controversy will be around for awhile.
Cheers to you.

Feisty56 wrote on September 8, 2015, 7:02 PM

I understand your concerns about the safety of the vaccine and the yet unknown long-term effects. Another concern is, how long does the vaccine protect against HPV? Is it something that wears off over time and people will need boosters? Perhaps there's already an answer to this, but I am unaware of it.

Petra wrote on September 8, 2015, 7:38 PM

I think there is a series of three vaccines and then it lasts about 5 years and would have to be repeated. Also women are encouraged to continue to get their annual pap smear.

Petra wrote on September 8, 2015, 7:53 PM

Thank you Meg for your comment. I just feel that it is our responsibility to raise our children in a safe environment, be it their education, health, morals,and well being, etc. Therefore we have to educate ourselves and then decide based on that outcome what is best for that child. Almost every second advertisement on TV is about a drug we need to alleviate anything from arthritis, high blood pressure, cholesterol,etc. and now they add HPV for children. We shouldn't just give it to our child before investigating it first.

Paulie wrote on September 15, 2015, 2:17 AM

I think the vacccination should be voluntary and not mandatory. Is it mandatory in Canada?

LeaPea2417 wrote on December 11, 2015, 8:34 PM

Thank goodness my kids are grown and I don't have to think about this. I think it is wrong to make children have it, it should be up to the parents.