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When is a Minority Group a Problem?

Sweden: Jews are not a “problem”, as long as there’s only a few of them ...” ( Source )

Odd quote to start off an article with. ( )

But if you don't believe or don't read the Bible, then perhaps the statement is logical. (???) When the Jews multiplied in Egypt they weren't a problem then, until the Pharoah who did not know of and/or did not choose to remember Joseph, decided that the Israelites were a "problem". Other than the facts that they were having a lot of babies and lived in the Land of Goshen . That was their home. They weren't trying to spread themselves out because there wasn't enough room. They were settled and weren't exactly messing with anybody! They weren't trying to overthrow the ruler and set up a new government or anything.

So what is written in the Exodus, is that like - the product of a great imagination?

Let's say the from account is a fictional. You know if you watch the "wandering Jews" or the " " (hope that term is used properly), wherever they move to, they usually just settle down and live quietly, do business, observe their religious customs, practices and traditions. Whether there are millions or just a "minority", they don't create the impression they came to take over! Seems like the only land they are ever willing to fight over is Palestine .

The rest of the earth? Jews be like - Whatever!

It's just an observation. Please correct me if you see flaws.



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DWDavisRSL wrote on January 2, 2016, 11:21 AM

I see no flaws to note in your article. Having taught ancient world history last year, I made an effort to learn the Egyptian side of the story told in Exodus. Guess what. As dedicated as the Egyptians were to keeping detailed records there is no significant mention of the Hebrews at all, nor the plagues Moses brought on, nor any reference in Egyptian records to having chased the Hebrews to the Red Sea. The fact is that as archaeologists and historians continue to investigate the story of Exodus, the more the evidence they find contradicts the story.

grandma20121 wrote on January 2, 2016, 12:23 PM

it sounds about right to me, i never thought of jews as a minority trying to take over

markgraham wrote on January 2, 2016, 12:35 PM

Loved the article and you gave me ideas for many articles to come for me to write. I just hope I can pull it off.

cmoneyspinner wrote on January 2, 2016, 3:05 PM

Attended a Catholic school. Humanities / World History was one of my favorite subjects in high school. It was actually a required course but I was glad of it because even to this day I can recall and reference or apply much of what I was taught as I continue pursue my biblical studies and learning of secular history.

Here is something I want you to ponder:

Are not our own lives a significant part of the record of the history of mankind? But what do you read about us in history books? We're nobody in the grand scheme of things.

How much stuff can people find that provides evidence of their existence? I can tell you lots of things that happened in my childhood but can't show you “proof” . Other than my memory recall I have nothing to show for it! And when I'm dead and gone who will ever know if I never passed it down orally to someone else, if it was not written for posterity, or there was not some sort of physical evidence left behind? Who will know what happened?? No evidence!

The only reason we know about many events, many people, etc. recorded in the Bible is because it was recorded. With the account provided, we can either believe it or not!

(Another long winded comment. Didn't publish as a post because it didn't have related links of interest for examples.) :)

DWDavisRSL wrote on January 2, 2016, 4:08 PM

I understand what you are saying. Most individuals don't leave much of a foot print on history. But with the Exodus we are talking about, if the Old Testament numbers are to be believed, the out-migration from Egypt of 2 million men, women, and children, all at once. That would have left a record, and no record exists, other than in the Old Testament in accounts written many centuries after the fact.

My many times great grandfather who lived in Virginia at the time of the American Revolution left little evidence of his life behind, but the 2.5 million inhabitants of the 13 colonies certainly left ample evidence of their existence. The Egyptians were almost pathological about keeping records. 2 million people up and leaving would have been noted.

Gossamer wrote on January 2, 2016, 4:42 PM

They don't seem to want to take over any country, other than what they consider as their birthright (Israel/Palestine). You will probably never see a Jewish Potus for instance. But a large chunk of the big names behind the scenes in the entertainment industry (producers, directors, etc), the finance industry and maybe a few other areas in the West, are of Jewish background. In a way, they do run the world 😀

Telynor wrote on January 3, 2016, 8:34 PM

The Diaspora, more properly, refers to after the destruction of the second Temple by the Romans in 72 CE, It's pretty reasonable that the Egyptians did not record the time of the Jews packing up and leaving in their records -- who wants to admit to a defeat?

Telynor wrote on January 3, 2016, 8:37 PM

Not to mention a great deal of medicine and science have been made by the Jewish people. Please, please don't say that we're trying to take over the world -- we just want a little piece of it, and everyone can have the rest.

cmoneyspinner wrote on January 4, 2016, 12:08 PM

Is that so? So for all the good Joseph did in Egypt - he saved the people of Egypt from a famine; and his own family who moved there because of the famine and were allowed to stay because of him. Yet the Bible account says that a Pharoah came to power who had never heard of Joseph?

Now I get that proverb about the wise man who saved the city but nobody remembered that man. How is it possible the Pharoah had never heard of a man who had saved his people? All I can say ... it is possible.

On the other hand, Joseph gave specific instructions that his bones not be left behind in Egypt. Maybe when the Hebrew people left they made a special effort to not leave behind any traces that they were ever in Egypt. They left a very angry Pharoah in the dust! The Egyptians would have no reason or motivation to preserve records about them; and the Hebrews have no reason to care whether there was anything in the Egyptian records that indicated they had once lived there. They have a biblical record that's good enough for them!

Don't want to argue with about this. But I am certain there is a lot that has happened on planet earth that can not be corroborated pr proved by anything - no oral tradition, no written records, no evidence, no nothing.

cmoneyspinner wrote on January 4, 2016, 12:09 PM

I am confident you can pull off whatever you set your mind to do.

cmoneyspinner wrote on January 4, 2016, 12:10 PM

See my discussion with DWDavisRSL above.

DWDavisRSL wrote on January 4, 2016, 5:31 PM

I will agree that the sum of what we don't know about what happened in the past far exceeds what we think we do know.

cmoneyspinner wrote on October 28, 2016, 10:00 PM

MBS Oct 2016.