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Baited by a Final Payment at Bubblews?

Though I really do not want to give the B-site any of my time and space, I do want to let others, who may be awaiting payment, know of my experience. Any vagueness that you may find here is intentional, as I am targeting those who experienced the situation and continue to wait and watch for some resolution.

The December Fiasco Happened

Just hours before the big announcement was made and many previous pending payments were either deleted or drastically reduced at the site, I submitted my last redemption request of the year. It was December 30th around 11:30 p.m., so according to their time stamp, it was a 31st redemption in the amount of $68.18.

Several hours later, sh%$ hit the fan, and the site found a way to drastically reduce what they still owed people, including changing their payment structure and applying it retroactively to November 11th. I highly anticipated that they would reconfigure what was owed to me based on the new values before paying.

What I Chose to Do

I began to remove most of the nearly 900 posts I had on the site. However, if it were written after my last redemption in October, I left the up there so "the-powers-at-B" would have no justification to use that as their excuse to hold back payment. I began to be much more strategic.

I also began to write very occasional pointed response/opinion pieces aimed at what I have observed and read by the company's CEO and team. I always try to be respectful in my delivery, but will not silence what I believe is truth.

Nor will I refrain from letting others know that it is not the vision nor the mistakes made that are most problematic for me. I am very clear that it is because of our personal interaction that I hold him to a higher standard. He (the CEO) lied specifically to me.

I have also commented on several other posts written by corporate team members, calling attention to the fallacies in their statements. I have noted in one particular post on "inclusiveness of all people" regardless of culture, education, etc., the writer excluded one category--age/young versus old. I have also seen the marketing language for all the new ideas, which are targeted for the younger generations.

Of course, no one on the team, including the CEO, has ever commented or responded directly to me. They have done so through those "writers"/followers who have scolded me for not being supportive or fair.

"Thank you, (follower's name), for your understanding of who we really are and for your continued support of us."

To date, I have not received a response, a quest for clarity, an opportunity for discussion, or any other correspondence from the team, since the CEO and I had our email exchange over a year ago.

Payment Received

On February 2nd, I received notification that an eCheck had been put in my Paypal account for $68.18. It cleared today, minus the fees charged by Paypal.

I have written and submitted 22 pieces since my end-of-year redemption. In nearly six weeks, I have earned $3.50 on the total of nearly 100 articles I have written or left up during this period. I continue to read and interact, but I have lost the drive to do so, not because off the money but because the atmosphere has changed.

Today, I removed all but a dozen things I have written. Each one has a common thread that may or may not be apparent to the readers. Some may say that they are "negative."

Others may think I am a crazy old woman and "need to just die already."

My Next Steps and Final Thoughts

Until I think it prudent for me to sever the relationship for good, I will continue to visit from time-to-time and see what is happening. I expect that I will never see another redemption.

I highly suspect that the site will not survive to the end of the year, but I could be wrong. There are still some good people who believe in the vision and support the corporate team 100 percent. Maybe Arvind, Jason, and their team can pull it out of the hole it seems they have dug for themselves.

Or maybe their newest venture will be the cash cow that they hope it will be. Their target audience is certainly different.

Am I glad to have been paid? Sure, except it feels a bit like "dirty money." I have to question "Why?" I was allowed the full amount, but others were denied so much.

Was I thrown some bait? Was it to entice me? Give them something to use to show how "good" they should I continue to write my truth?

I need to stop now...or I will want to go back, just to start my philosophical rantings.

But then I need to resist feeling the need to go back to writing more things that no one reads and for which I will never be paid.

© 2015, Coral Levang All rights reserved.

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LeaPea2417 wrote on February 6, 2015, 1:27 PM

That is very interesting. I am still there because I only have a little over a dollar to earn before I can cash out and I want to be paid! Do you know it has taken me 6 months to get to 48 dollars? That is why I am trying so hard to hit 50. Then when I do cash out, that will be the last I write for them.

CoralLevang wrote on February 6, 2015, 1:33 PM

LeaPea2417 I will likely never see another redemption, even if they do survive. Are you registered under the same pen name there as here? I will do my part to help you get to your $50

Kasman wrote on February 6, 2015, 1:45 PM

As long as there are members there who are willing to accept being kicked in the teeth on a regular basis (and it seems many are) Bubble Ooze may surprise us and keep going for some time yet - even if it is a poor excuse for an honest place to do business.

BarbRad wrote on February 6, 2015, 1:56 PM

I am really glad they paid you what they owed you. But I think you are wise to lay low and not write anymore. I'll probably never see my $19, and I'm no longer writing there, so I probably won't see anymore or ever redeem again. I remove a few more of my best articles each week to post here or somewhere else. I no longer promote any of them. If I see someone I know on the front page after I delete an article, I might visit if the topic looks interesting and leave a comment. That keeps my foot in the door should I ever need to open it again.

CoralLevang wrote on February 6, 2015, 1:58 PM

I agree Kasman . I choose to stay for the time being because I think that I need to poke the sleeping bear from time-to-time. I am waiting for another bit of "brilliance" to come from the powers at I can speak my mind. It's my pain-in-the-ass nature, I suppose. Eventually, I will tire fully of it. I just like to stir it up sometimes.

Feisty56 wrote on February 6, 2015, 2:01 PM

I'm happy you received the full amount of the redemption, but your full payment flies in the face of the newly stated retroactive payment plan put out by B, which you know. I'm not pointing a finger at you or any other writer there; the fickle finger of blame can only be pointed to the Powers That Be at B. Dishonesty is dishonesty whether it's in the plus or minus column, with the dishonesty being on the part of those who make arbitrary payment decisions despite stated policy, as that site has done for quite some time now.

CoralLevang wrote on February 6, 2015, 2:02 PM

BarbRad LOL I'm not sure I will be wise or lay low. ;) If they continue to write, I will always have write rebuttals to their argument. It will fall on deaf ears and those who choose to read it? I will piss many off and probably alienate those who see me as a SH**-disturber by doing so. emoticon :grin:

CoralLevang wrote on February 6, 2015, 2:07 PM

We are in full agreement here, Feisty56 . As most of the monies I have ever received from the site has been donated to cancer causes that are dear to my heart (having Stage IV cancer), then this will go to have some benefit for awareness for said cause.

Awareness is absolutely key for me in life, as you may already know from what I write in response to B and have left up at site. I used to be (nearly 2 years ago) one of their biggest advocates, even in light of struggles, which I suggested could be new startup issues. I no longer feel the same way.

PeterChase wrote on February 6, 2015, 2:54 PM

Shortly before they cancelled my three redemptions I stopped writing there. I could see the handwriting on the wall. I have had $26.26 in my account since then. I have not bothered to delete my content since no one reads the posts anyway ( because no matter what they say the site is not SEO). I will write a post here soon about why micro blogging sites make no financial sense. Congrats on your measly pay! Your time is worth much more than that!

Fawkes62 wrote on February 6, 2015, 3:37 PM

After the fiasco of New Year's I had decided to stay long enough to make it to $50. I've been keeping track of what I earn and it took me about two weeks to earn $1. At that rate it will be over a year before I earn the rest, I'm at just over $20 there right now. What finally pushed me to join a new site, this one, was when Arvind said that they had no plans to lower the payment threshold. If the earnings stay as slow as they are now I would average about one payment every two years. That is not feasible for me. I'm still there now because I like the people I interact with and many of them only write there. As I meet new people here I may end up quitting there all together at some point.

Squidwhisperer wrote on February 6, 2015, 5:58 PM

I'm no longer a member there but have dropped through occasionally to see what some old colleagues are doing. And - perverse as it might sound - I now do read the CEO's posts because I find them so hysterical. But - wow - those sycophants are something, snarling like pit-bull-chihuahuas at the first sign of criticism directed at their leader...

CoralLevang wrote on February 6, 2015, 6:05 PM

PeterChase I have seen the writing on the wall for quite some time. I would have completely left back in October, and then again six weeks ago, but wanted to redeem this last one. I really don't give a crap about what they do, except that they are snakes who are easily duping so many.

I would like to figure out a better way to do online writing and make it worth something... financially. I agree that time is worth more than what any site can pay out; I wish that I could figure out a way to do both. I just don't know how.

CoralLevang wrote on February 6, 2015, 6:07 PM

fawkes62 I guess I missed that announcement by Arvind as I'm not paying much attention. I did write something about not living long enough to reach the next redemption, though. LOL

CoralLevang wrote on February 6, 2015, 6:09 PM

squidwhisperer It doesn't sound perverse at all to me. LOL His is the first profile I visit. And please don't demean my chihuahua like that. He has more balls than most people I know. And I had him neutered at 7 months old. ;)

Squidwhisperer wrote on February 6, 2015, 6:17 PM

Apologies re chihuahua. I initially wrote just pit-bull but that seemed to give the Loyalists too much potential menace. Let's forget dogs altogether. They're just really irritating to read, especially when they start speaking on behalf of the Emperor. Emperor meant this, Emperor meant that... If Himself wasn't such a narcissist, he'd respond for himself and ask others to not speak for him.

CoralLevang wrote on February 6, 2015, 6:53 PM

squidwhisperer Apology accepted. emoticon :winking: I do not read much of what his subjects write any longer. I do read his, however, to get riled up enough to write and then share on Twitter. Eventually, I'll likely be banned. LOL

allen0187 wrote on February 6, 2015, 7:16 PM

Well written piece. I completely see your point. I have a pending payout there of over $60. I'm not holding my breath. I think it is $60 down the drain. I'd be happy if I get it but I doubt if it'll be enough for me to start being active there again.

CoralLevang wrote on February 6, 2015, 8:24 PM

allen0187 Thank you. I was surprised to get mine, actually. I thought it would be cut in half, if received at all.
I do hope you get yours, however, but it is not a good thing that they have paid a handful randomly and done what they have done to so many others. I do not like it.

Squidwhisperer wrote on February 6, 2015, 9:02 PM

That's likely your fate there. But I found my 3rd deletion curiously satisfying. I'd said all I needed to say and "the last 9 posts standing" were all various explorations of the administration's disrespectful/unprofessional behaviour and the warped psychology of the place. Had a kind of Alamo feel to it...

MommyCharm wrote on February 6, 2015, 11:53 PM

Lucky that you still got paid although I heard that a lot of other Bubblews members still receive payments (but more doesn't).

CoralLevang wrote on February 7, 2015, 2:47 AM

I wish they would do so, but no matter how hard I try... LOL Maybe I'm too diplomatic. Bwahahahah.

CoralLevang wrote on February 7, 2015, 2:51 AM

mommycharm I feel badly about that because so many others are still being denied. It needs to be talked about. People need to come forward.
There was a site that was used by many people to inform others about a place I used to work for. It was a site called and the more that people put up there, the more there is something out there. I haven't checked to see if B is up there, but I know it was a major black eye for this old company I worked for (which went under, by the way).

UK_Writer wrote on February 7, 2015, 11:13 AM

One thing you could do is delete last year's posts off the site, then just copy/paste them back into the site a month later. emoticon :smile: Just an idea. Saves the time/effort of writing from scratch.
I'm up to $29 in my bank. My final payment from them was a $70 redemption, that paid me about $30. Not impressed.

CoralLevang wrote on February 7, 2015, 11:29 AM

*laughs* I know some that might do that, but I won't. I am not interested in working that hard for them. Besides, I think they still have it somewhere on a database. Wouldn't that be in violation of their TOU? Manipulation of the system in order to get more money?

What I expect from them nothing. I am not still there for them, but for me and the people I read there. I also highly anticipate I will be deleted (by them) before it's over. Or I will grow tired of them not listening to reasoning and I will walk away altogether. I am just a bit nosy, so I stick around to read and comment on Avi's posts

LeaPea2417 wrote on February 7, 2015, 12:43 PM

On that site, I am Rita Stiles &RitaStiles3301

CoralLevang wrote on February 7, 2015, 12:54 PM

Go ahead and add me there, and when I get back there I will come visit.

celticeagle wrote on February 7, 2015, 1:06 PM

I have been at $30 for over a month now. I don't go over there very often. I post the junk I can't post elsewhere. I still have a very few followers over there. I just want to redeem one last time. I am also deleted my old posts and am working slowly to get the rest of nearly 1400 posts off of there. I don't care too much about the most recent ones.

CoralLevang wrote on February 7, 2015, 1:21 PM

Well, at a dollar or so a month, you might get it by the end of 2016. emoticon :winking: I still hang out and am reading and commenting for those who are close.

crowntower wrote on February 7, 2015, 1:53 PM

I don't really know what to say anymore. I felt so badly enough and I don't want to feel anything about it. I visit them when I have time just to say hi to my old friends who are still there. But writing? I decided not to write anymore, I always write there a lot of my insights, and poems but I think they throw them out on the trash after getting some money from it. Too bad because they sis not take their writers fairly. They pay to some and the others - they throw a lot.

valmnz wrote on February 7, 2015, 2:23 PM

I was paid the full amount owing on my December pay out. It has something to do with money earned before 11 November I think.

seren3 wrote on February 7, 2015, 7:52 PM

Like many, I had my largest redemptions deleted at the perfect timing for that site. If you ever start a "need to just die already" club I'll join emoticon :smile: !

CoralLevang wrote on February 8, 2015, 2:32 AM

crowntower I am so sorry for all of this that has gone on for so many people. There was no rhyme nor reason to it.

CoralLevang wrote on February 8, 2015, 2:34 AM

valmnz I'm glad that you also received yours, but I know many others who redeemed around the same time, and whose monies were cut. Others did not get cut. I don't think we will ever know what happened and how.

CoralLevang wrote on February 8, 2015, 2:38 AM

Hell, no!! I refuse to allow some 20-something to dictate when I die! LOL That refers to something one of my students said in a class that I have written about over at the Bubbs... "You baby boomers just need to hurry up and die already. We are taking over the world anyway."
I plan on starting a "I-am-going-to-live-long-enough-to-be-a-bigger-pain-in-the-ass-to-you-than-I-am-already" club. Besides, I have to keep beating down this cancer to keep proving a doctor wrong! emoticon :winking:

mrsmerlin wrote on February 8, 2015, 9:36 AM

I have been given some outrageous insults because I had the nerve to question the power that be - and even worse I criticised members for signing up for the new wonder without even knowing what it is - sorry I wouldn't do that, I need to know exactly what I'm signing up to. I intend to continue popping over there until all of the people I choose to continue to follow have moved to a different site, hopefully here and hopefully soon, as I am only on $23 and some shrapnel I don't expect to be paid again so I sent a lovely email politely suggesting what they could spend the money on, such as hiring someone to read their TOS and advising them on the illegality of it.

CoralLevang wrote on February 8, 2015, 10:36 AM

Oh my! *laughs* I think you might just be a bigger rabble-rouser than I am! I like that in a person. emoticon :smile: Let me know if you get a response from the kidlets.

BodieMor wrote on February 8, 2015, 3:43 PM

I can only hope that all of you Bubblews refugees get paid what you deserve. And I'm floored that there are 20-somethings that can be so desperately disrespectful. Yikes!

CoralLevang wrote on February 9, 2015, 12:55 AM

There are so many wonderful 20-somethings. Unfortunately, like anyone in any group, we each make our own choices as to how to behave.

Coffee wrote on February 26, 2015, 6:08 AM

I left there and the $15.85 I had in my bank? They can keep it!