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CGP Gallery takes a nosedive

must really be laughing his head off.

When came into existence, people thought that they had found the new . It offered one cent each for every rate, comment and view. The earning potential looked great and minimum was just $10 which was quickly raised to $20. People were all praise for the site, its rules, its CEO and admin and whatnot

Yesterday, I think, the admins changed the rules without any prior warning. Now members get no pay for rates, $0.001 for every view and $0.01 for every comment. So let's suppose a post gets 10 comments and 15 views. Total earning for that post is $0.105. To reach $20, the writer will have to write about 200 posts and interact for endless hours.

Unless they pull a rabbit out of their hat fast, I am sure CGP Gallery admins will have lots of disgruntled members on their hands soon. I am just happy I did not pour my heart and soul into that site.

But what is really worrying for me is how slow things are at PP as well in spite of so many new members and influx of posts. My last 3 posts have got just 22 views in all, meaning 44 coins which translate to $0.066. At least by commenting on other people's post I still have some control over my potential here which is not possible on any other site.

Otherwise things are looking gloomy right now.

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littleblacwolf10 wrote on January 9, 2015, 3:26 AM

I knew CGP Gallery couldn't last paying 1 penny per stuff. I put no effort into making friends there just because I knew it would go downhill when membership grew and it went down fast. I am surprised bubblews did it as long as they did.

AliCanary wrote on January 9, 2015, 3:54 AM

I avoided CGP Gallery because they looked like Bubbs and acted like Bubbs. So, clearly too good to be true...just like Bubbs. But you're right; I really don't understand why views here at PP don't seem to be increasing along with the skyrocketing membership. Maybe people are just publishing and not reading? Obviously it's not as easy as just clicking on Like, so I suppose coins will never accumulate as quickly as they did there.

Dawnwriter wrote on January 9, 2015, 4:01 AM

I feel the same thing. New members might not know that we can earn coins by posting comments and are just concentrating on writing 10-15 posts a day, which might not be the best approach.

Louemham wrote on January 9, 2015, 4:07 AM

I avoided CGP for that exact reason as the earnings seemed to good to be true. I like Persona Paper because although the earnings are slow, we can increase them by commenting on other posts

agvulpes wrote on January 9, 2015, 4:31 AM

We have all been 'burned' with Bubblews haven't we, Sqidoo is another ?
My thoughts about CGP Gallery ? Why jump out of the frying pan into the fire ?
I looked around to see who was behind most of these sites and decided that this site PersonaPaper and Hubpages are the only sites that I consider to be run by honest up-front people.
Would love to hear your thoughts on that ?

PattyTherre wrote on January 9, 2015, 4:42 AM

With the influx of so many people expecting to make full time salaries at sites like this, it's a wonder any site can stay afloat. I like CGP but I don't think it will last really. I don't like that they didn't communicate the change in rates. I made $8.00 in three days before the change with 3 posts. One was explaining that the rates WOULD be lowered at any minute and voila! They were. No site can pay what they and bubblews were offering. I wish they could. But I am waiting to see if OUTSIDE views are now counted now at CGP. If so, then I will stick around. There are just too many people all over who write tiny posts that are barely readable who expect a LOT of money. I think quality has to improve and an understanding of how ad revenue is generating. One person said they would never turn off their ad blockers. I told her she was then stealing from me because she was not generating ANY income and I was. I turn my blockers off at these sites because that is what pays us. Anyway, I am just glad to be HERE!

PattyTherre wrote on January 9, 2015, 4:44 AM

They should read the rules. They jump in and write but don't understand how it all works. I am getting frustrated with people who don't read the rules and then complain about things. And with people who think they can write a few lines and do nothing else and make a lot of money. Ain't gonna happen ANYWHERE.

SoundNFury wrote on January 9, 2015, 4:45 AM

I thought CGP looked kinda shady from the outset, and too good to be true (much like Bubblews was.) But since they only allow 1 person per IP, my girlfriend writes there and not myself. She told me about the changes, but it still didn't sound as bad as what Bubblews did to people. Anyway, personally I doubt that Arvind is laughing at anyone right now, as the value of his site has been plummeting. Things are slow here but at least I like it and I think it has potential.

Gina145 wrote on January 9, 2015, 6:46 AM

To be honest I wish I'd put just a little more effort into CGP before the change because I've got over $15 in my bank and I don't want to forfeit that as I have already forfeited so much money at Bubblews. I doubt I'll be spending too much time there from now on though.

The one positive about the change is that CGP have at least realised early on that their model isn't sustainable, and have changed it quickly. However, as with Bubblews, the lack of communication is disturbing.

Gina145 wrote on January 9, 2015, 6:50 AM

As far as I can tell outside views still don't pay. I tried tweeting one of my posts last night and my bank didn't move. That might just be because I don't have too many followers at Twitter though. I'll try again later with a trending topic and see if that helps.

Kat- wrote on January 9, 2015, 7:42 AM

I noticed a lot of new members posting a ton but not commenting much, obviously not knowing the workings of the site. My husband had someone follow him and by the time he checked his notifications they had stopped following him. I told him to leave a comment and thank them for the follow and then stop follow. I've got people that followed me that have not left a single comment except on my intro post.

BigDreamer wrote on January 9, 2015, 10:42 AM

I checked that site out but never joined it.
After being burned by Bubblews, I was taking my time and easing into new sites.

FreyaYuki wrote on January 9, 2015, 10:51 AM

Heard about that site but haven't joined. Wanted more info first before thinking of doing so. Been hearing some negative reviews about it, which is a turn-off. After hearing this, won't bother with it anymore. Also heard something about their TOS (or maybe that was another site? Can't recall for sure right now). Also heard about Elite Visitors but haven't tried it yet either. Do you have info on it? And, agree with you that things here are kind of slow. I'm trying to be more active but, yeah, things are kind of slow (not as slow as in that other site though). And I do like how we can get paid for the comments.

AngelSharum wrote on January 9, 2015, 11:11 AM

It does seem that a lot of sites are having to lower rates. I guess the bad economy has hit the Internet.

MaeLou wrote on January 9, 2015, 11:26 AM

I think you have to remember that we started with the intentions of being sustainable. NO site - no matter what they say - will sustain on 1 cent per interaction with thousands and thousands of members or a brand new site. At least here, you have transparency and communication with the Admin. No one even knows who the Admin is over on CGP. I personally don't see CGP lasting much longer. They are shooting themselves in the foot before they even get started - with their lack of English skills alone.

MaeLou wrote on January 9, 2015, 11:39 AM

What I think happened was that they found CGP in conjunction and because right now "you earn more" they are there. They'll be scrambling again when CGP goes under.

Dawnwriter wrote on January 9, 2015, 11:56 AM

Agreed! Things are slow at the moment but I am sure things will pick speed soon

Kasman wrote on January 9, 2015, 11:56 AM

Commenting on other people's posts is what Persona Paper is all about! This isn't Bubble Ooze (or CGP) and we don't want it to be a clone of either of them! The number of views we receive on our posts is, of course, connected to the number of other members we are connected to - the more who see our posts the more will visit them.

Dawnwriter wrote on January 9, 2015, 11:57 AM

The admins here are very open and honest and this is important for me, esp after Bubblews.

Dawnwriter wrote on January 9, 2015, 11:58 AM

I face the same dilemma. I have about $10. I don't know whether to forfeit it or continue at the abysmal rate.

Dawnwriter wrote on January 9, 2015, 12:00 PM

Very well said. i hope the new members realize this too. Instead of writing one post after another, we all have to interact as much as possible so that our earnings improve.

Kasman wrote on January 9, 2015, 12:02 PM

MaeLou - CGP sound like just another bunch of 'get-rich-quick' shysters out for a killing at the expense of those they attract with ridiculously high pay rates. When are people going to realise that sustainability is the key to long-term income? The pay rates on PP may be low but I am confident they will increase and whatever you at admin decide to do please, please, please do not go down the Bubble Ooze road!

Kasman wrote on January 9, 2015, 12:08 PM

Dawnwriter - I am beginning to despair at the number of short (sometimes really short!) posts which are appearing on PP. It seems that many are unaware of the need to interact and the fact that the 'Like' button is a courtesy, not an income stream!

Dawnwriter wrote on January 9, 2015, 12:13 PM

I will add my please to it. We all need a quality place to write and even if the pay is good, I cannot abide a low quality environment.

Dawnwriter wrote on January 9, 2015, 12:15 PM

As said, many people jump in without reading rules and then flounder but it is also up to us, the older members to help and guide them if we can. that's why I mention '2 coins for views and 1 coin for comment' quite often in my comments

MaeLou wrote on January 9, 2015, 12:34 PM

I'm noticing that and I want to talk to the husband about increasing the character count or word count.

Kasman wrote on January 9, 2015, 12:39 PM

Kat- I think that those people are under the impression that simply 'Liking' a post is enough so they do what many did on Bubble Ooze - visit and 'Like' as much as possible hoping for reciprocation. That's not how it works on Persona Paper. Here interaction is king.

Gina145 wrote on January 9, 2015, 12:41 PM

I think all we can do is wait a few days and see if activity improves. If not we're probably wasting our time and effort at CGP.

Kasman wrote on January 9, 2015, 12:49 PM

MaeLou - that sounds a reasonable idea. It might help to emphasise that PP doesn't intend to be (or become) a plain old-fashioned blogging site. We are aiming for higher things (look out HubPages! emoticon :smile: )

stacygirl77 wrote on January 9, 2015, 1:00 PM

I just left Bubblews and checked out the CGP Gallery but didn't like that way it looked. I think that this site once people find out about it will take off.

soupdragon wrote on January 9, 2015, 1:13 PM

I never tried CGP Gallery and I'm glad I didn't now. At least on here you can earn by commenting on the work of others, so you're less likely to get these people who post 10 posts and then run - i.e. never comment on anyone else's stuff.

MaeLou wrote on January 9, 2015, 1:14 PM

I am going to talk to Will about it this evening and see what he thinks.

Kat- wrote on January 9, 2015, 1:53 PM

Yep, and I just love the interaction here.

rjsezack wrote on January 9, 2015, 2:53 PM

I couldn't even get to write anything there. Was just a messed up bunch of garbage.

MaeLou wrote on January 9, 2015, 6:57 PM

Those that want the money just handed to them without doing a darn thing, will be the ones that wont stick around, but I bet in a few weeks, they'll be writing posts stating how little they have earned. Everyone will be scratching their head wondering who they heck they even are because they aren't around or never actually interact with people.

WordChazer wrote on January 9, 2015, 11:59 PM

Well, I have 50 notifications to go through from 24 hours so that'll keep me going awhile. I also need to look at another section of the PP membership listing before the whole project slides on past me. But first up, work.

scheng1 wrote on January 10, 2015, 4:39 AM

I think that is their way to keeping all the earnings, and not paying to writers.

Kat- wrote on January 10, 2015, 8:35 AM

Oh well, their loss, it's pretty clear how this site works. I've got a couple people that "follow" me that have never commented on anything from what I've seen, mine or anyone's.

MaeLou wrote on January 10, 2015, 9:51 AM

I'm not too positive about that, but being that they are from Bangladesh, I can't imagine that any ad network pays them well to begin with. I think some people would be surprised how LITTLE one earns on a site from ad networks.

nbaquero wrote on January 10, 2015, 2:30 PM

I did the take the same approach AliCanary , as per the views, I think we need to gain critical mass (10K users?) or so, to see a real increase in view for each of our posts, however I have seen views in the double digits in half a day while before it would take me a few days. Any way I think we are heading in the right direction.

nbaquero wrote on January 10, 2015, 2:33 PM

Exactly Kasman no quick money to be made here, it will take hard work from the members, along with a solid strategy from the Admins to be succesful, but I do think we have done and continue doing what is correct, for this site to succeed.

Gina145 wrote on January 10, 2015, 3:50 PM

It appears that there was a glitch causing the lower rates. Support have now published a post stating that the technical error has been fixed and that earnings are back to normal.

CoralLevang wrote on January 10, 2015, 11:30 PM

The earnings are showing right now at 8:25 P.m. Pacific time on 1/10/2015 "Get paid $0.01 for each view & comment on your posts by other members at CGP Gallery."

I do find it difficult to maneuver through the site. It uses WordPress, of which I am familiar, but I do not see it as user-friendly as my own blog on WP. I may put up a few more things there, just to see how it works, but nothing substantial. I also am taking a look at Elite Visitors, but am finding it equally as confusing. I see PP as likely to end up as my go-to for this type of site. I deactivated my FB in November and have not figured out whether I will try that one again or not.

trufflehunter wrote on January 11, 2015, 6:57 PM

I did not join CGP. Prefer a slow and steady approach to a high risk one. Bubblews forfeited my payments during my highest earning months!

zabelle51 wrote on January 15, 2015, 4:26 PM

I opened an account there and wrote a couple of articles mostly because so many of my friends are there but I am never going to send my Paypal details toa company in Bangledesh. I can't get paid so I figured why bother. I am much happier making a less over here. :)

zabelle51 wrote on January 15, 2015, 4:33 PM

Forgive me for what may have seemed like a racist remark, it wasn't intended to sound like that. This is Isabelle from Helium. it was that I would have no idea how to resolve a complaint with a company so far away and they don't seem quite professional, deleting accounts without warning and changing things etc. I realize you must trust companies based in the US and that hasn't gone so well in the past so please accept my apology for what sounded like a thoughtless comment. I have been placing some of my Helium articles on Writedge and Dailytwocents and I actually got my first payment right on schedule which after Bubblews is such a nice thing.

valmnz wrote on January 18, 2015, 11:56 PM

I looked in on CGP, dived up in fact, but took it no further. I started here today and have had fun so far.

valmnz wrote on January 18, 2015, 11:57 PM

That was my exact feeling as well. Why o to something that was a relics of Bubblews.

HappyLady wrote on February 6, 2015, 7:59 AM

I am hoping Papeer Persoa will work out in the long run as I really enjoy not having hundreds of posts that are of low quality to ignore. As far as cpg is concerned, I think they jumped on the band wagon of a failed model. I wrote there for the last few days and earned a bit, but it is not a patch on Bubblews as it was or here.