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Is HubPages in trouble?

I'M NOT AT all sure how to take some information I received tonight. I got an email from a Google+ connection of mine saying that there was information which everyone associated with HubPages should be aware of. The email listed many HubPages authors - including some (like myself) who were on Squidoo and had our content transferred to HubPages some weeks ago.

According to this source - which I know from several other sites and believe to be reliable - there is something amiss with HubPages: specifically that those who wish to leave that site may have trouble with their content and earnings.

Coincidentally, I deleted my HubPages account only last week, taking my content with me, and have had no further dealings with them. My content was deleted without any problem and is no longer available on HubPages. I left because I don't believe that HubPages was the best place for my mainly personal content and I have no earnings from that site to dispute.

However, I know that some members of Persona Paper are also on HubPages and may not be aware of this information so, in the spirit of sharing important information here is the link you should all read: THIS INFORMATION

As I have said I don't quite know what to make of this. Does anyone have any further information to share or comments to make?

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MegL wrote on November 10, 2014, 5:00 PM

I was annoyed with Squidoo just before they sold their content to HubPages because I did not understand what they were doing with the business, although, obviously in hindsight, I now see what they were doing! I have some content on Hubpages, not much but do not intend to remove it at present. This is a very useful and informative post, thank you for posting it, to let people make their own decision about their content.

melody23 wrote on November 10, 2014, 5:42 PM

I was never on Squidoo but I do have a hub pages account with a grand total of three hubs, it was suggested to me as a place to put my helium articles but I just don't like it there and because I don't have adsense I don't earn anything from my three hubs. If I was earning from them I would probably be more likely to write more but I doubt I will at this point.

FourWalls wrote on November 10, 2014, 5:48 PM

I think their main problem is AdSense. Google bans people from making money via AdSense for no reason, and you have NO recourse.

Feisty56 wrote on November 10, 2014, 7:10 PM

I haven't heard anything, but I haven't been active on HubPages in a long time.

bestwriter wrote on November 10, 2014, 7:48 PM

I never joined HubPages. These kind of sites are slippery. The best would be to write at sites where one writes for requesters like Iwriter. I am a member there although I have not written there lately as my time is spent here more for interaction than for the money. A prolific writer like you could soon rise to the 'elite' level where each article around 500 words could fetch more than 15 dollars sometimes.

AliCanary wrote on November 10, 2014, 8:07 PM

I was never involved with it myself, but it's nice of you to share what you have learned.

devil.angel wrote on November 11, 2014, 6:46 AM

I never came to agree about sharing my personal content on any writing sites on which I have no authorizations. Lucky for you that you could delete it without any problem. You never know when these sites claim the content

melody23 wrote on November 11, 2014, 8:35 AM

Do you have any idea how long it takes to get to elite writer there though? A very long time! I have an account there and I have written the odd article here and there for them, but I don't make a fortune and find the articles available when you are first starting out are usually rubbish.

MarshaMusselman wrote on November 11, 2014, 2:26 PM

I started on hubpages last May or so, but I've not done much there since then after I found bubblews and found I could generate more income there.

What the article you provided the link to is saying if I understand it correctly is that even if you delete your content from hubpages, they keep a copy of it along with your name and avatar and continue to make money with your content without your permission? If that is truly the case, this is quite bizarre. I've not looked at my account in a while, I'll need to do so soon to see if I can see any changes there or what.

WordChazer wrote on November 11, 2014, 2:33 PM

I never earned from Squidoo and I took my content off there long before they sold out to HubPages. I never had an account with HubPages either. AdSense is beyond me and I'd rather have a site that allowed me to use Amazon Associates and similar.

Kasman wrote on November 11, 2014, 2:40 PM

That is how I understood it. It doesn't affect me since I didn't have an AdSense account there and didn't earn any income from the short time I was on HubPages (I came from Squidoo). Perhaps that is why I was able to delete my content without any problem and have it disappear from the site - they weren't bothered about pages which didn't earn anything.

Marisawright wrote on November 11, 2014, 5:12 PM

To put your mind at rest - that article is wrong about HubPages keeping your content. Yes, it keeps a copy for a period but that's only in case of legal challenges (e.g. copyright questions). In fact, that has always been one of the big benefits of HP - unlike some sites, if you want to remove your content, you can do it easily.

I'd say the article writer is just very upset about Squidoo selling out to HubPages. She's one of the small group of writers who totally misunderstood their status at Squidoo and will never accept that Squidoo had the legal right to sell their business to HubPages, which included their articles. And to collect their Squidoo earnings, all they had to do was leave their Hubs published for a short period of time.

Marisawright wrote on November 11, 2014, 5:13 PM

No, they don't. They keep a copy offline for a period of time in case of enquiries.

Marisawright wrote on November 11, 2014, 5:16 PM

There is an "elite" status on HubPages but it has nothing to do with your writing and you don't earn anything extra. It's just an accolade given to some Hubbers to identify them as knowledge sources on the forums. HubPages also doesn't suggest article titles - you are free to write on any topic you like. Are you talking about a different site?

Marisawright wrote on November 11, 2014, 5:17 PM

I've been on HubPages for over six years and they have never claimed any content.

melody23 wrote on November 11, 2014, 5:23 PM

Yes I was talking about iwriter because it was mentioned in the comment above mine about it being an alternative for some people. I actually didn't even know there was an elite status on hubpages, but then I only ever wrote three hubs lol

rusty2rusty wrote on November 13, 2014, 5:42 PM

I really have no clue. I joined up on Hub pages to be able to leave comments on my friend posts. I never wrote for them.

LarrySells wrote on November 16, 2014, 4:03 AM

I have a few hubs. I have Absence which I got through Google and Amazon. I'm not active enough to make any money. Not really sure how, HubPages work. Not really sure I care.

Glenn wrote on November 23, 2014, 6:42 PM

I read that article that you linked to. It is so silly. HubPages does not claim ownership of one's articles. On the contrary, they make it very clear that we retain ownership. And we can delete them if we want. As for the acquisition of Squidoo, they were going out of business. If it wasn't for HubPages purchasing Squidoo, all their authors would've lost everything. HubPages did not steal the lenses. They are paying the Squid authors the same way that they pay all Hubbers. Everyone had a choice of transferring his or her lenses, or not.

As for the reduced traffic since the acquisition, there is no way to know for sure why this happened. It's true that it might've been the lower quality of lenses. Or it might be because too many lenses looked like they were spamming ads, in Google's eyes. Or it may have been due to the latest Panda updates.

It was your decision to remove all your Hubs. I hope you did a thorough check to be sure that no one plagiarized your hubs before deleting them. Because once you did that, you can't publish them anywhere else without the plagiarized copy looking like the original. Leaving old hubs published is a precaution to avoid plagiarism, because it maintains proof that you wrote it first. I know, archive.org would have the proof, and that may be so. But the original post is the strongest evidence of all.

Anyway, I've been quite happy with HubPages. Their staff has always responded to my comments in the forums about site issues. My income is decent for what it's worth with Google testing all sorts of algorithms. For that matter, I learned a lot from the way HubPages has been making rules to satisfy Google. When I implemented the same rules on my personal business site, the Google traffic increased. So HubPages knows what they're doing, dispite how difficult it is to keep up with Google.

Kasman wrote on November 23, 2014, 6:49 PM

Thanks for the clarification. I left HubPages because it simply wasn't my kind of site (and yet I loved Squidoo). From what you and Marisawright say the author of that article had an axe to grind.

rana199426 wrote on December 14, 2014, 3:48 AM

mmmm I think it's annoying to be with working with a site that suddenly stops running, I'm thankful that I never joined squido..

rana199426 wrote on January 8, 2015, 12:09 AM

Hubpages is not a bad site, however, I sometimes hate what they do and the updates they do to their TOS and stuff are just disturbing.. They have as well prohibited me from linking back to my own site - the reason that got me so discouraged! they have unpublished 50 articles of mine linking to my website so now I'm just moving these articles to my website[point].